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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Nov 15, 2010 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of avatars (non-dead hijack)

" Paglia's outrage is as manufactured as Gaga's music." - true enough. They both have their jobs to do and they each are extremely good at what they do.

"There's no reason at all for getting in a strop and accusing the people who like it of being braindead pop-zombies just because you don't get it." Rob, who's 'getting in a strop here'? I happen to agree with whole heartedly with your response - except for this part. It's awful presumptuous on your part to assume i "don't get it", having spent a lifetime of producing and presenting contemporary art and music - including pure pop, with a strong bent and preference for the cutting edge and avant garde. I think it's because I do get it that I feel comfortable in my opinion that her work - well conceived for her audience, and mightily marketed - is well polished veneer.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 15, 2010 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of avatars (non-dead hijack)

For what little it is worth, my 9 year old daughter thinks her music sucks. Then again, this is the same kid planning on playing ABBA's "Money, Money, Money" at her upcoming music recital.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 15, 2010 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of avatars (non-dead hijack)

Hey, if you think this is me in a strop you don't, as Bugs Bunny said, know me too well.

:-)


Seriously though, it's my fault for not writing clearly enough. My remarks were directed at what Paglia was saying, not you. Apologies for any misunderstanding.

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Nov 15, 2010 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of avatars (non-dead hijack)

Rob, I'm cool - not a problem.

I'm not a fan, nor a regular detractor of Miss P. Critics write, often with the intent to piss somebody off.

I just read the whole review - she (CP) does have an over-the-top style of writing - and it seems she has plenty of axes to grind.

Blanket statements are rarely, if ever, a good idea ... and they seem to be a part of her MO.

But, as regards to the Dead. I must say, it was your comments, Rob, that finally got me to listen to the Wembley Halloween '90 show. Night and day difference from the next night - the band was tighter, the energy was much, much stronger, and Jerry's voice (at least, at first) and his guitar playing had spark and enthusiasm. The Help/Slipknot/Franklin's immediately brought a smile to my face. . . . I had a pass to both nights, but I gave my 10/31 to a drummer friend who loved it. I could never understand his heady enthusiasm after seeing the 11/1 show . . . I do now.

It was TDIH 11/15/87 at Long Beach, that I last saw Jerry play with such fire, enthusiasm, strength and, above all, joy. He smiled a lot throughout the show - even did that wry, raised eyebrow thing a few times. The band was equally on. The last time I walked out of a dead show satisfied - down to my bones.